2012年12月16日 星期日

誰是罪魁禍首?

諾貝爾獎得主、經濟學家、紐約時報作者Paul Krugman 日前發表對中國的評論,我在以下抄錄他一些警句:

If you worry about climate change and stuff like that, then China is -- Chinese growth is a wonderful human success story that could kill us all. (如果你擔心諸如氣候改變的問題,那麼中國的增長----是了不起的人類成功事,會滅絕全人類。)

To some extent actually, we are hurt by Chinese growth. ... There are scarce natural resources, and we are in fact competing for limited supplies of oil, minerals, etc. (其實或多或少,中國的增長害了我們.....天然資源稀少,而我們都在競爭有限的石油、礦藏等等。) 


較詳細報道請看http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/12/paul-krugman-china_n_2288447.html

中國的高速增長,耗用地球上的資源;中國強大起來的結果,是全人類要為中國埋單,就是這麼簡單嗎?

中國的高增長,首先要講的是當然是擔任「世界工廠」,數不清的外國產品其實是在中國加工代製----包括最便宜的家庭日用品,你手上的iPhone、桌上的電腦,以至世界級名牌如英國的Burburry乾濕褸!然後搞大量基建,如新城市、公路、高鐵、摩天大廈等等,提供就業機會,擴大內需,促進消費

隨著世界各國人民的生活質素提高,對各樣貨品的需求有增無減,中國「改革開放」之後,供應廉價勞工甘願付出環境污染、廢氣排放的代價來製造這些產品,很多產品都比以前便宜而品質更高,令更多人能夠享用。

所以問題的癥結,不盡是中國方面消耗資源,而是全世界現代人的生活方式和消費模式的改變。就算中國不代製這些產品,其他第三世界國家如印度、越南、泰國等等都躍躍欲試,想分一杯羹。

當然,中國因為經濟增長而富了一部分人,他們的「現代化消費模式」一開動,中國人口這麼多,一個中國家庭買一個電視機、冰箱、洗衣機已經不得了。

以二氧化碳總排放量而言,中國當然是排頭位;但是問題要這樣看,美國人口三億,如果以人均製造的污染計算,還是遙遙領先任何國家,大約是中國人(十三億)的三倍:
(來源:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions )

以汽車為例,美國有2.5億多輛汽車(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_vehicles_in_the_United_States),中國有1(http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2011-09/17/content_13725715.htm),但是中國的人口是美國的四倍多。這樣粗略估計,美國國民的擁車率,接近中國的十倍。

而且,中國排放的二氧化碳雖多,有多少是「為人作嫁」的?


(文章允許轉貼,請具作者名字:梁煥松)

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22 則留言:

  1. 美國人的浪費,相當得人驚!
    香港上了年紀的人,仍多有惜物的習慣。反而大陸人,因要補償過往的失去,日益浪費了!
    大陸成為世界工廠,功過不易下判語,是一大題目!

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    1. //美國人的浪費,相當得人驚!// Just look at the data about how many pounds of trash per day an average American throws away! Trash doesn't tell lies. LoL. --zpdrmn

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    2. 70年代之前,美國車5000c.c.以上的很平常,不知道浪費了多少汽油。

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  2. 一個是生活方式, 一個是人口總量, 地球係點都頂唔順o既
    照現在的政經文化狀態, 各國係冇可能合作到的, 單單一個碳排放, 海洋捕魚, 都已經各行各路
    現在是等天收, 來一次氣候生態大轉移, 看那一國在浩劫後死剩種

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    1. 除非是全世界過簡樸生活,不過崛起中的國家未享受過,一定不肯。

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  3. 博文内容中肯客觀,不如説人類發展現代文明是罪魁禍首,美國更是倡導者。

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    1. 如今是賊喊捉賊。

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  4. Developed countries outsourcing polluted industries to developing countries!
    然後說搶走他們的飯碗令失業率上升??? 又強加關稅 tariff 說要懲罰太低價喎,有佢講嗮乜都是你的錯!

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    1. 還有更可惡的,是把垃圾輸往菲律賓、印度和中國堆填。
      不過也是一個願打,一個願捱。

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  5. 現實D講, 美國模式, 帶來豐盛的物質生活, 這個仍然是發展國爭住搭的順風車, 過去的香港, 台灣, 星加坡, 日本, 韓國, 上車早佔了先機, 各國有眼睇, 才紛紛埋堆
    在經濟規律上, 中國美國是一對奸夫淫婦, 各取所需而矣, 現在雨散雲收, 自然互相指責囉

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    1. 美國若是有心,應該早簽京都協議,帶頭減少污染,不要拿中國做不簽的藉口。

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  6. What a Nobel Prize Winner! What about American consumerism? Americans can pollute the world, Chinese can't? What kind of thinking is that? Or is he blind and he couldn't see that Americans consume most. How many vehicles are there in the US polluting the air?
    Even though I'm an American citizen, I have to draw a line between myself and American consumerism. I live on as little and recycle as much as possible. I don't drive much. (My car has very low mileage.) That's not easy in most places in America. (Public transportation is a joke.) I encourage early retirement. It may be bad to the economy but hopefully it makes the world a teeny tiny bit greener. --zpdrmn

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  7. 內地鄉村有不小人用電力摩托取代單車
    不知有冇身處歐美前輩知道電力摩托普及程度?

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    1. 電力車是普通車的雙倍價。
      電力車行走是不出廢氣,不過電從何來?除非是用風力和太陽能供電,只是廢氣轉移到煤油發電廠周圍排放。

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  8. combustion engine should have been replaced long ago, man. it was all due to the petroleum industry and related interest, man!!

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    1. 人人踩單車去轉搭公車吧。

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  9. 誰是罪魁禍首?

    -就係自稱萬物之靈既所謂人類;計我話,地球上差不多所有既人型物體都應該叫做萬物之'零'先啱,包括我在內。人呢種野只有對地球做出破壞之舉,根本係地球災星。

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    1. Raymond下午2:38

      我無法想像他日地球沒有鐵、沒有煤、沒有石油、沒有石油氣、沒有銅、沒有可飲用的水、沒有魚、沒有樹木......人類怎樣生活!

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    2. Raymond兄,

      到個一日來臨,人型物體呢類無價值東西又點值得再生存係世上呢?

      或者人型物體呢類無價值東西早啲歸位,可能地球重有得救,否則,地球只會繼續被人型物體摧殘蹂躪,破壞殆盡。

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  10. Totally agree. The life style o Americans are very wasteful, really very wasteful. I live with them and saw in my own eyes. A little funny example, my neigbor clams herself as a "green person". She never uses paper products as it is "not environmental". She uses cloth diaper, etc etc. BUT in the summer, gosh, she has to turn on the AC to the maximum and 24 hours. Her answer is " all white people will really burn in this hot, I can't stand it. !!"

    Don't get me wrong, they are a very nice people in general. I love living in America. But they do not aware their life style - at least 2 cars in a family, consuming culture is already in their bone.

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    1. " all white people will really burn in this hot, I can't stand it. !!"
      Yeah, right! My black neighbor did the same in a certain month too. (She probably did the same in other hot months.) Supposedly, as a black woman, she could stand the heat?? She spent over US$300 on electricity that month. I used one fourth or less than that. I used even less the next summer. If one is serious about being green, one find ways to do better.
      (It's hot here in summer. Hotlanta is the nickname. Many days are 35C or above. It can go up to 40C for days in a row.)
      Maybe it is this, "all fat people will really burn in this hot!!" LOL.

      //at least 2 cars in a family// That's one side you see. (We have many cars here, that's for sure.) But the other side is, many poor families don't have a single car. They have hard times in going to work, going to do grocery etc. (Again, public transportation sucks here. If one needs to make connections, it could be very time consuming. And that the bus stop is 2 miles or farther away from home isn't unusual, even if one lives near the bus route.) I have seen many people without cars and I know quite a number of families without cars. --zpdrmn

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